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    Re: Making a 416 out of a 421

    Since you'll be using a sub system, you can use the 421 as is except swap out the 'chrome dome' for a 416's dustcap since you need neither the 416's low Fs nor extra Xmax.

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    edit: you'll need to block off the rear vent also if it has one [can't remember if all models had one].
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    Re: Making a 416 out of a 421

    It works. I would use a hard paper dome instead of the chrome...just call bill at GPA he can do it. Or at least use parts he recommends.

    I really would recommend getting 418 instead as it converts directly. Or 422, same core. Brother has a single for 25.

    421 core is also same as 423.

    418's actually work well if you have a sub...I cover the shiny dome with a felt one, bfish suggested vented paper instead....
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    Re: Making a 416 out of a 421

    Thanks guys.
    The only thing about the 418 is that the magnet weight, per the catalog cut at GPA is 1/2 the weight of a 421 or 416.
    OG I got email; thanks.

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    Re: Making a 416 out of a 421

    Just a little more info, please: If I substitute a 416 recone into a 421, do I get a reasonable replica of a 416? Any reason not to do this myself?
    thanks again.

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    Re: Making a 416 out of a 421

    They are different drivers, and AFAIK, different VC and magnet structures.

    Don't always believe the spec sheets either, you may find that the 418 is the same mag as a 416A, or 8-Z, but not a B or C.

    There is nothing wrong with a 421. It is prob not the best unit for a M19 clone though.

    I think you'll find a 416 kit will not fit into a 421.
    A 420 tho, the biflex, is the same as a 416, and maybe a better go for a recone.

    If you are careful, yes reconing can be done, search round for the ALtec tech letter on reconing techniques.

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    Re: Making a 416 out of a 421

    A 416 kit does fit into a 421. GPA has done it before. However the 421 has a back vent so must have a front cap with no vent hole..

    In the case of spec sheets though, you can certainly believe when one has a ceramic and the other Alnico, that they aren't the same magnet.

    OTOH I do not know if the later 416 with ceramic uses the 421 mag. Good chance, but just plain dunno.
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    Re: Making a 416 out of a 421

    Thanks O.G. Can I simply plug the back and use a screened cap (as on the 416) on the front?

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    Re: Making a 416 out of a 421

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Guy View Post
    A 416 kit does fit into a 421. GPA has done it before. However the 421 has a back vent so must have a front cap with no vent hole..

    In the case of spec sheets though, you can certainly believe when one has a ceramic and the other Alnico, that they aren't the same magnet.

    OTOH I do not know if the later 416 with ceramic uses the 421 mag. Good chance, but just plain dunno.
    OK Thanks for that.

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    Re: Making a 416 out of a 421

    Hi OG. what thickness and size do you recommend for the felt?
    thanks
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    Re: Making a 416 out of a 421

    Quote Originally Posted by les winter View Post
    what thickness and size do you recommend for the felt?
    Not sure what felt?

    You mean to convert 808's?
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